07/23/13 NDE Class Notes


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07/23/13 Class Notes
By David Sunfellow

As always, the class began with a few moments of silence. Then I shared a few interesting NDE-related videos and stories from the past week.


Saskia Moore’s “Dead Symphony”


Dead Symphony is a contemporary symphony, comprising of many documented accounts of music heard during near-death experiences. From the documented collections, Saskia Moore has ascertained the sounds and music heard are like ‘miniature symphonies’ — lyrical, abstract, and beautiful by its very nature. The ‘miniature symphonies’ are arranged and composed into one continuous Symphony. The arrangement of the Symphony brings into play both abstract and traditional instrumentation. The repetition and looping of the unconscious symphonies allows audiences to come in and out of this sound world, shifting and changing upon further listening, eliciting new interpretations of the sounds: looping and embedding into the audiences’ personal memories.

For more information, go here:





Visions of Future Children in Near-Death Experience
Presented at the IANDS 2012 Conference, August 31 – Sept. 2, in Scottsdale, AZ

For over 20 years Brent Hinze, PhD and Sarah Hinze, BSc have pioneered a ground breaking new area of research, the Prebirth Experience (PBE). A PBE is a spiritual experience and form of vision that involves contact with one or more unborn souls. A PBE can occur during an NDE or in other ways. The authors have collected hundreds of these accounts. This presentation includes case studies of PBEs as related to NDEs, power point demonstrations, statistical analysis of PBEs, and how lives can be changed through direct PBE/NDE experiences and/or vicarious experiences.

Aron Ralston is one of the cases mentioned in this presentation. Ralston documented his near-death experience in his best-selling autobiography “Between a Rock and a Hard Place” which was adapted for the 2010 Oscar nominated film “127 Hours” directed by Danny Boyle and starring James Franco.

Here are a few very interesting comments from two interviews with Ralston. These comments were read during the class to illustrate a couple core truths associated with near-death experiences:

1. That our relationships with one another are extremely important (Ralston made the extraordinary decision to cut off his arm so he could survive to raise an unborn son);

2. That it often takes a surprising amount of time and effort to integrate spiritual experiences, regardless of how dramatic they are. Ralston notes below that “I had these epiphanies, but they didn’t change me… It took a long time before I was able to move past what I was doing with adventure and climbing, and really start to focus on relationships…”

Hiker Who Cut Off Arm: My Future Son Saved Me
By Michael Inbar
December 8, 2009

Original Link


Question: How changed are you as a person as a result of this experience? There’s a moment in the movie were you said how selfish you were before.

It was like I took my family for granted. I hadn’t expressed my gratitude to them. There’s a line on the video tape that James delivers verbatim from what I said to the camera, and it was, “Mom and Dad, I want to say I’m sorry. I feel like I haven’t appreciated you enough in my heart as I could have. I regret it now. I regret that I had been a little walled off.”

I think everyone, as you grow up, has to become independent and more self-reliant, increasing especially as you move through your teenage years and your 20s. I’d done that maybe more than most. At the time I was there in the canyon, I was 27 years old, and I was looking at how I’d moved so far away from my family, in a sense, and distanced myself, and maybe even walled off from relationships in general.

I’d become very obsessed with being outdoors and adventures. My whole life was going into mountaineering and climbing, and there was a cost to that. What’s most important about life? It’s not the number of mountains I’ve climbed, it’s the relationships. These people that have spent time with me. I was, like, “I wish I’d spent more time with them. I wish I’d said thank you more often. I really regret that.”

In terms of how it changed me, I had these epiphanies, like “This is what life is about” when I was trapped, and I got out and recovered, with a lot of help from my family and friends. But then I went right back to doing all those things I was doing – being obsessed with adventure and climbing and athleticism.

It was like I didn’t learn anything, at least for a few years. I had these epiphanies, but they didn’t change me. I think that’s true of a lot of things that come too easily or too quickly — it doesn’t stick, it doesn’t last. You might ask why, if I cut my arm off, I didn’t learn my lesson. But that’s how deeply rooted the issues I used to have were — my ego, my desire for fulfillment, my obsessions.

It took a long time before I was able to move past what I was doing with adventure and climbing, and really start to focus on relationships. It’s taken getting married and having a baby to pull me out of that life and move forward into a new one — I think that’s part of coming full circle. It didn’t just happen, even after that transformative experience in the canyon. I just went back to being the same brazen guy that you see at the beginning of the movie.

The guy who swims up to the edge of the pool and sees his friends and family, and the guy sitting on the couch with his wife and baby, it takes seven years before that comes around.


Aron Ralston Interview
By John Scott Lewinski

Original Link

Ralston: Before that day in the canyon, I was selfish and need-driven — accomplishment-driven. I was bullied as a boy. I was ashamed and beat-down, so I grew up with a need to prove myself in all aspects of my life. I came away from [the accident] with an appreciation of what we’re capable of as human beings. After sharing my story and offering it as something uplifting, after marrying my wife and having my son, there’s a gradual maturing process that changed who I am.

Question: For some people, coming so close to death and surviving might make them feel superhuman. But you refocused your life around your new family. How did you manage to keep Hollywood fame and fortune from getting inside your head?

Ralston: Leo is the little boy I saw in the canyon. He is the reason I did what I did. Now I have to consider how much time I should spend traveling. How much attention do I want brought to Leo? It would be horribly ironic to have a son who saved my life, only to fail to raise him properly because I spent all my time talking about him.


Twins Talking

In the past week, I also came across a viral video of two toddlers talking to one another using non-sensical sounds. It reminded me of how we talk with one another. Do we really listen and seek to understand one another? Or are we more interested in just making noise…


The Formula

We spent the remainder of the class talking about The Formula. I briefly summarized the “Connect with God” and “Feel God’s Love for Us” circles, which we had discussed in detail in previous classes. Then we spent the remainder of the class discussing the “Love Others via Daily Acts of Kindness” circle. The class ended with all of us agreeing to keep a close eye on “the little things” in our lives and report back during our next class — the end-of-the-month dream class — what we noticed.


Future Classes

Our next NDE class will take place on Tuesday, August 6th from 7:00 PM until 8:30 PM at St. Andrew’s (see below for directions). This is our end-of-the-month dream class!


A Newly Emerging Spiritual Path

“Unlike spiritual paths that arose from the ideas and inner experiences of lone, isolated human beings, the path presented by near-death experiences is emerging as a direct, grassroots revelation that millions of people from all over the world are receiving and sharing. If we explore this newly emerging path deeply enough, we discover that all religions, philosophies, and cultures are honored; that science and spirituality are celebrated; that both the human and spiritual side of our natures are cherished and embraced. In short, near-death experiences present us with a universal, all-inclusive, perfectly integrated spiritual path that revolves around three core truths: 1. We are all one; 2. Love is the essence of life; 3. We are here, in this world, to become perfect embodiments of the divine.”

“The Formula”

“The Formula for Creating Heaven on Earth” or “The Formula” was introduced in David Sunfellow’s two-part YouTube presentation called “How Near-Death Experiences Are Changing The World.” The goal has been to identify the universal truths presented by near-death experiences and wrestle them into “a formula” that we can use to transform our lives. Version 1.0 can be download here (pdf). The Formula’s Circling Worksheet can be downloaded here (pdf).




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